Bill on Securing America 4/26/23 Part 1
Tucker Carlson, a valued colleague in this line of work, has been removed by Fox News from his perch as the anchor of its evening weekday programming for reasons that are not entirely clear as we speak, but the implications of it are pretty clear and likely to really be devastating to those of us who looked to Tucker for clarity and courage about many of the most important topics of our day. One, needn’t have agreed with him on everything he said or espoused, and I didn’t, to recognize that his voice was incredibly important, not just for conservatives, but for, well, patriots, yes, but I think for the country as a whole.
Frank Gaffney (00:10):
Welcome to Securing America with me, Frank Gaffney, the program that’s a kind of owner’s manual for protecting the country we love against all enemies, foreign and domestics, to the glory of God and His kingdom.
Well, there has been a perturbation in the force, as they say in Star Wars. Tucker Carlson, a valued colleague in this line of work, has been removed by Fox News from his perch as the anchor of its evening weekday programming for reasons that are not entirely clear as we speak, but the implications of it are pretty clear and likely to really be devastating to those of us who looked to Tucker for clarity and courage about many of the most important topics of our day. One, needn’t have agreed with him on everything he said or espoused, and I didn’t, to recognize that his voice was incredibly important, not just for conservatives, but for, well, patriots, yes, but I think for the country as a whole.
And to talk a little bit about the implications of his departure from that platform, at least, I’m very pleased to have with us a man who has been a leader of the conservative movement, among other things. His name is Bill Walton, a featured regular of our program I’m very pleased to say, and the host of his own, the Bill Walton Show, who, among other careers, has been a master of the universe on Wall Street, but I’m particularly appreciative of the time he spent leading an organization of which I’m proud to be a member, the Council for National Policy. And as a result, a man with his finger very much on the pulse of thinking of conservatives and yes, others who love our country. Bill Walton, welcome back to Securing America. Always good to have you with us, sir.
Bill Walton (02:11):
Frank, great talking with you.
Frank Gaffney (02:12):
So let’s talk a little bit about what has happened here and what you think it portends.
Bill Walton (02:18):
I think it’s hard to overstate the impact that looks like Rupert Murdoch has on removing Tucker Carlson from a primetime show, 8:00 to 9:00 five nights a week. It’s as if Rush Limbaugh had been snatched out of his talk radio in the prime of his career. And my belief about Tucker is, as you point out, we don’t agree with him about everything, but I agree with him about most everything, and he was really a thorn in the side of the establishment, the elite, the globalists, obviously the Biden administration, and…
Frank Gaffney (02:58):
And I’d say the Republican establishment, as well. He seemed to be pretty set on, among others, calling out Mitch McConnell, for example [inaudible 00:03:07].
Bill Walton (03:07):
You’ve got to wonder about the impact of Paul Ryan on this decision.
Frank Gaffney (03:10):
Bill Walton (03:11):
Paul’s on the board of Fox News Corp., and he loves…
Frank Gaffney (03:13):
Former Speaker of the House of Representatives.
Bill Walton (03:15):
Yeah, you’re right, Frank. The Republican Party “leadership,” at least in the Senate side in particular, is hardly friends of freedom and what Tucker was saying, and they silenced Tucker’s voice. And I guess it came down to, as I understand it, they had this big settlement close to a billion dollars with Dominion, the voting machine company, which some people believe, I believe, is in part owned by the Chinese Communist Party. Anyway, they lost that lawsuit, and Tucker was going to do a show on Monday night touching on this issue, and I think, explained… I don’t know exactly what the show was going to be. Anyway, the Fox powers that be came in and said, “Well look. From here on out, we’re going to have to start letting you know what you can say and what you can’t say.” My understanding, he said, “That’s not acceptable,” and he’s gone. Now, he’ll come back on another platform, but it’s tough to find a soapbox as powerful and as easy to access as Fox News is.
Frank Gaffney (04:21):
Well it’ll be interesting to see. I have the feeling that wherever he winds up is going to become, excuse me. I have the feeling that wherever Tucker Carlson next appears is going to turn out to be a pretty popular platform, and I hope that that voice will not be stilled. One of the things, Bill, and I just have to say this because it’s so stunning to me, that I think may have featured in that last show, as it would’ve been I guess, was the rebuttal to some of the things that have been said, among other people, by 60 Minutes most recently, of Ray Epps and his role in this January 6th episode. Tucker, of course, was the guy that Kevin McCarthy, the current Speaker of the House, gave enormous quantities of video to do an independent look at what actually went on on that day in Capitol Hill. And Ray Epps was at the heart of it, obviously, and it was bizarre that 60 Minutes did this, as did the New York Times, this incredible whitewash of the guy and his role in that affair.
Bill Walton (05:41):
Well let’s do [inaudible 00:05:42].
Frank Gaffney (05:42):
So what do you think of all that?
Bill Walton (05:42):
Let’s do a silver lining, Frank. This could be the death knell of Fox News as the place for conservatives, libertarians, like-minded people go to get their news, and there is an opportunity here to go set up… There are other platforms that already exist with off cable, and I think this may be a chance to get conservatives, particularly older conservatives, to start getting their news elsewhere. If that happens, that’s a good thing, and I hope that Tucker is right at the epicenter of it.
Frank Gaffney (06:13):
Well I have the feeling he will be, and I very much hope that our platform, Real America’s Voice, will be among those that people turn to.
Bill Walton (06:20):
I forgot the most important platform, Frank.
Frank Gaffney (06:22):
It’s pretty important to this program, that’s for sure.
Bill Walton (06:24):
I think you and I ought to… Let’s go see Tucker. Let’s go visit him in Florida. Let’s start our recruiting trip.
Frank Gaffney (06:30):
There’s a plan. I suspect others are beating a path to his door. Bill, I want to talk to you about a bunch of other things, as well, of course. One of the things that Tucker actually was seized with, as are we, is the prospect that the asymmetric warfare that the Chinese Communist Party has been engaged in for decades now is making real headway on one particular line of attack that it has been focused on, I think it’s fair to say, for a very long time, with others, notably the so-called BRICS countries, Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, and now others. And that is toppling the dollar as the reserve currency of the world, and I know you’ve expressed skepticism about the feasibility of doing that in the near term, and yet there does seem to be steady progress being made even now. But talk us through how you see that playing out, Bill. Is it a problem over the longer term, for sure, and maybe even on an accelerating basis?
Bill Walton (07:42):
Well let’s do history. Every empire sees its hegemony disappear. Look at the British pound after World War I. They lost their role as reserve currency, certainly after World…
Frank Gaffney (07:55):
Bill Walton (07:55):
Frank Gaffney (07:56):
Two for sure, yeah.
Bill Walton (07:58):
And well they hung on between the wars, but it was clear the United States was the dominant coming power. And the problem that we have, not we have, but I think the Southern Hemisphere, they’re now almost wholly aligned with China. China’s been investing in Africa and South America for decades now, and they’ve got most of the leaders of those countries, in effect, on their payroll. And this is a fallout, I believe, of Biden’s administration’s insane focus on trying to take out Putin through their proxy war in Ukraine and in the process, wrecking Ukraine, killing hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians, and using their currency, the dollar, and sanctions is one of the weapons. Since we won’t commit our own forces, we’ll just commit young men and women from Ukraine. And the rest of the countries around the world are looking at this use of the dollar as a weapon, and they’re gathering together, virtually every other country outside the European block, and saying, “We need an [inaudible 00:09:04].” Well Macron, well he’s a separate… He’s a…
Frank Gaffney (09:10):
He may be an outlier at the moment, but I think he’s driving things in that direction of accommodating China.
Bill Walton (09:17):
But the part that really matters is that the dollar’s status as a world currency. The thing to keep in mind is it’s really two big picture things about the dollar. One…
Frank Gaffney (09:29):
We can’t convert either of them right this second. We’re going to have to pause. Hold on folks. You’re going to.