episode 90: “Forget Covid 19. Worry about EMP.” With Dr. Peter Vincent Pry and Frank Gaffney.

It’s time to wake up to an existential risk that looms infinitely larger than anything posed by the Covid 19 virus.

     Electromagnetic pulse (EMP).

EMP can be caused by a naturally occurring solar storm, a nuclear weapon or something as simple as a manmade suitcase sized device and would collapse electric grids and electrical critical infrastructures all over the world


A nationwide blackout lasting one year could kill up to 90 percent of the American people, through starvation, disease, and societal collapse.

Moreover, EMP is the ultimate cyber-weapon in the military doctrines and plans of Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran.

The threat is not theoretical.  A solar storm EMP occurred in 1859 at the dawn of our electrical age and destroyed telegraph systems everywhere in the world.

“Today, the impact would be catastrophic. Power grids would collapse all over the world. And all of the life sustaining critical infrastructures, telecommunications, transportation, business, finance, even food and water, depend directly or indirectly upon electricity. And advanced electronic civilization in the whole world, even in African countries depend upon electricity now for the survival of their people,” warns my guest Dr. Peter Vincent Pry.

But preventing this terrifying scenario “has never enjoyed popular recognition or government sustained focus” explains my other guest Frank Gaffney.


Join me as I learn in this riveting conversation about what our government is doing – or more accurately not doing – to protect America from this threat.


My Guests:

Dr. Peter Vincent Pry is executive director of the Task Force on National and Homeland Security and the author of The Power And The Light: The Congressional EMP Commission’s War To Save America 2001-2020.

Frank Gaffney founder of the Center for Security Policy and Vice Chairman of the Committee for the Present Danger: China.





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